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Thought leaders gathered for an off-the-record conversation about the impact of AI on the entertainment industry at TheWrap’s inaugural Tech Dinner sponsored by Meta on Tuesday night at The Benjamin in Los Angeles.

The evening featured a conversation between Meta’s VP of product management Khushboo Taneja and veteran tech journalist Adam Lashinsky.

Industry heavyweights at the dinner included investor Jeff Sagansky, CAA head of strategic development Alexandra Shannon, Fox Corporation CTO Melody Hildebrandt, filmmaker and author Justine Bateman, Status founder and editor-in-chief Oliver Darcy, Propagate Content co-founder and co-CEO Howard Owens, Capital Entertainment CEO Aaron Kaplan, former LA Times executive editor Kevin Merida, Deep Voodoo COO Brian Robillard and film financier and former Relativity head Ryan Kavanaugh.

Meta leadership at the dinner included Public Figure Innovation Partnerships of NorAm lead Max Brabant, strategic partnerships lead Charlton Gholson and Meta’s AI communications lead Amanda Felix.

See photos from the event below.

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TV Production Should Use Social Media Influencers to Take Big Swings, Says Roku Content Chief https://www.thewrap.com/paramount-telemundo-roku-risk-tv-industry/ Thu, 10 Oct 2024 23:26:37 +0000 https://www.thewrap.com/?p=7631037 TheGrill 2024: Looking to "that convergence of the digital world with the TV world" leaves room for risk to be "built into the system," David Eilenberg says

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In a TV production climate that saw a 20% plummet in Los Angeles last year and an overall drop-off of 40% since 2022, risky, large-scale prestige projects are no longer the name of the game. But Roku Media content chief David Eilenberg sees a way to keep “risk built into the system”: social media influencers.

Speaking at TheWrap’s annual Grill conference on Tuesday at the DGA Theater Complex, the entertainment executive posited that looking to “that convergence of the digital world with the TV world” and nurturing young talent is “one way to make sure that there’s still enough creative risk” in an industry that’s averse to taking any.

“It’s going to be interesting over the next five years to see some of the talents who came up via YouTube, came up via social channels, have their visions for what TV and film can mean to them,” Eilenberg said on TheWrap’s “Shaping the Future of Television” panel, presented by NBCUniversal Telemundo Enterprises and moderated by TV editor Jose Alejandro Bastidas. “I think we’re starting to see it already a little bit in real time.”

There’s evidence to support his hypothesis, too: Brian Jordan Alvarez’s “English Teacher” at FX, Benito Skinner’s “Overcompensating” at Amazon’s Prime Video, Rachel Sennott’s untitled HBO comedy series all hinged on the success of its creator-stars’ social media fame before they were invited to make more traditional screen work.

TheWrap’s Jose Alejandro Bastidas and Roku’s content chief David Eilenberg speak at TheGrill 2024 (Photo by Randy Shropshire for TheWrap)

Still, it’s no secret that the TV industry is becoming more risk-averse in post-labor strike belt-tightening. It remained the topic at hand for co-panelists Javier Pons Tubio, EVP of Telemundo Studios and NBCUniversal Telemundo Enterprises, and Jeff Grossman, EVP of programming at Paramount+.

Success in part relies on balancing risky ventures with surefire bets, Grossman said.

“You have to look at the overall mix of content, and you want to make sure you have diverse offering, especially if you’re addressing a whole household like we are,” he said, before pointing to his streamer’s Australian comedy “Colin From Accounts,” which is currently in its second season, as well as the documentary from the “South Park” creators “¡Casa Bonita Mi Amor!” as riskier bets the he’s taken.

“Content like that we’re consistently trying to elevate in the service and bring to our subscribers, in addition to the more familiar tentpole content. So it is a mix,” Grossman said.

Tubio agreed with Grossman’s assessment. However, he’s also seen a shift in his own international business to more “mainstream” hits.

“Five years, eight years ago, when streaming began, all of those shows were far away from the linear TV, from the mainstream. And right now, two years ago, they are beginning to ask us to make for them longform shows, more solid, like the historic mainstream shows that we have been doing for 27 years,” Tubio said. “So we have to mix and combine.”

But risk isn’t just present in international half-hours like “Colin From Accounts.” Eilenberg also emphasized that there is risk with established IP, pointing to one of Paramount Global’s biggest TV assets, “Survivor.”

“There’s going to be a question of, ‘How many places should this live? How are you using it to get new audience? When do you start cannibalizing an audience?'” Eilenberg shared. “Those are real risk-reward scenarios that any company has to sort through nowadays.”

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AI Can Make Sets More Accessible, but the Tech Still Reflects Ableist Bias, Experts Warn https://www.thewrap.com/ai-disability-accessibility-representation-panel-adam-conover/ Thu, 10 Oct 2024 22:57:02 +0000 https://www.thewrap.com/?p=7631035 TheGrill 2024: "If you take one little fraction of the money spent on AI and spend it addressing disability directly, it would be incredibly effective," Adam Conover says

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AI can make Hollywood sets more accessible for disabled people, but it still has no idea how to replicate diversity on screen or in its output, experts and advocates said at TheWrap’s Grill conference this week.

“AI is not intelligence. It’s mimicking intelligence,” Candis Welch, the Chief Equity Officer for California’s Department of Rehabilitation, said. “It’s mimicking what our society is putting in. So if our society … has ableism and different levels of discrimination, it’s not going to produce something different when you type it into ChatGPT, or whatever you may use.”

“A perfect example of that is if you were to ask AI to provide you a visual of leadership and make it diverse, it’s going to be all Caucasian males, and the diversity is going to be one Caucasian female,” she continued. “That is not the true telling of our society, so it’s lacking in that area.”

Experts on the panel at TheWrap’s annual Grill conference covering AI’s role in disability access and visibility in film and TV, presented by Easterseals Southern California, agreed there are some pretty significant limitations.

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Lolo Spencer at TheGrill 2024 talks AI and Disabilities. (Photo by Randy Shropshire for TheWrap)

Alongside moderator Kristen Lopez, Welch, actress, entrepreneur and disability advocate Lolo Spencer, comedian Adam Conover and filmmaker Ashley Eakin expounded on why AI struggles to reflect a diverse society, and the practical ways it can help.

Eakin, a writer and director, suggested that anyone who works with people who have disabilities should use AI to recommend accommodations.

“I encourage people out there who work with other people with disabilities, you can go to AI and say, ‘Hey, how can I make my set more accessible for this community?'” she said. “It spits you out a whole long list of amazing accommodations, and I think that’s ways that we can be learning.”

“But then also hire the production accessibility coordinator, because people’s needs are different,” she continued.

The panelists largely agreed that AI isn’t capable of recognizing those individual needs, even when prompted.

Spencer, who stars on Max’s “The Sex Lives of College Girls,” noted that she’s played around with text-to-image software herself to experiment with what a program might spit out when asked to create a character in a wheelchair, and the results were laughable.

“AI wouldn’t even be able to formulate what that looks like. I mean, I’ve used Midjourney before, because I was testing that out just playing around,” she recalled. “And, you know, you type in ‘wheelchair,’ my God – it was everything but a wheelchair.”

Conover agreed that AI is not actually intelligence, and offered an alternative.

“The amount of attention that is going towards AI versus — if you take one little fraction of the money spent on AI and spend it addressing disability directly, it would be incredibly effective,” he said.

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New AI Protections Laws Aren’t a ‘Silver Bullet’ Against Rapidly Changing Tech, Says Top SAG-AFTRA Lawyer https://www.thewrap.com/sag-aftra-general-counsel-jeffrey-bennett-ai-laws/ Thu, 10 Oct 2024 18:53:01 +0000 https://www.thewrap.com/?p=7628838 TheGrill 2024: Since last year's strikes, the union is fighting on Capitol Hill and Sacramento against unethical AI use

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AI protections just signed into law by California Gov. Gavin Newsom aren’t a “silver bullet” that will solve all the problems of the rapidly advancing technology, said SAG-AFTRA’s general counsel Jeffrey Bennett at TheGrill conference this week.

“It’s a web of protections,” Bennett said of the union’s ongoing efforts to pass laws on the state, federal and local level to protect performers from unauthorized use of their likenesses. “None of these are the silver bullet that’s going to solve problems that we’re going to have to deal with when it comes to digital replication or synthetic content.”

The new Newsom-backed laws in California require contracts to specify the use of AI-generated digital replicas of a performer’s voice or likeness and prohibit the use of AI replicas of deceased performers without the consent of their estates.

The conversations with legislators and stakeholders in Hollywood and the tech industry surrounding what is covered by the First Amendment have been “exhaustive,” Bennett said in conversation with senior film reporter Jeremy Fuster at TheWrap’s annual conference.

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TheWrap’s Jeremy Fuster and SAG-AFTRA general counsel Jeffrey Bennett at TheGrill (CREDIT: Randy Shrosphire for TheWrap)

“You’ve got decades and decades of case law dealing with the First Amendment and balancing it with IP rights. And that language was a huge compromise among broadcasters, studios, record labels, First Amendment scholars, artist advocacy groups, and obviously the unions,” said Bennett.

He added, “It is an imperfect compromise to accomplish a goal that I feel is urgent.”

Bennett explained he can accept compromises on other front if SAG-AFTRA’s main goals are met: “I am willing to live with those if I get an intellectual property right and voice likeness that — most importantly — allows you to take stuff down off of platforms,” he said, referring to the NO FAKES Act.

Bennett also discussed the post-strike developments in the fight to ensure that actors are guaranteed consent, compensation and control over use of their voice, likeness and performances in any AI programs used in productions.

Currently, SAG-AFTRA is on a new strike against video game and post-production companies that are signed to the Interactive Media Agreement, including Warner Bros. Games, Disney Character Voices, Activision Blizzard and Formosa Group. While the union came to terms with the companies on nearly all contract issues, the strike was ordered after SAG-AFTRA found the companies’ terms on AI protections to be too limiting in their scope.

SAG-AFTRA says the companies’ proposal would particularly leave motion capture performers vulnerable, as they are only offering performers rights to have consent and compensation over AI replications of their mocap work if it is for characters that share a likeness to the performer. Those characters make only a small fraction of the characters motion performers play for video games.

“What we’re saying to the video game companies is, ‘Step up, do the same thing that all these other industries and companies have done, and respect human creative performance, whether that’s voice or physical performance,” Bennett told TheWrap.

“If you are bringing people in to perform, to animate the characters in your video game, you need those human performances. Don’t then turn around and replicate those and use them across characters and across other video games without consent for each and every time you want to use that person’s performance. That’s as simple as I can put it,” he stated.

He cited the June Toys R Us ad created by OpenAI’s SORA as one of the most puzzling examples of what AI is currently being used for. “I’ve heard a lot of these AI companies talk, and they like to promise that AI will deliver scientific breakthroughs, medical breakthroughs, solve climate change,” said Bennett. “So why are you spending $100 billion to build a machine to make a Toys R Us ad? I don’t understand. I’m hopeful that consumers may agree with me that they don’t want to see all their content be synthetic.”

In 2025, Congress is expected to push forward on further AI regulations that SAG-AFTRA and other entertainment labor unions are lobbying for, including the NO FAKES Act, which has been introduced to both the House and Senate and enjoys bipartisan support.

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TheGrill 2024 Talks AI, Hollywood Trends With World Class Panelists Taking Centerstage | Photos https://www.thewrap.com/thegrill-2024-photos-megan-rapinoe-rachel-morrison/ Thu, 10 Oct 2024 01:14:14 +0000 https://www.thewrap.com/?p=7629355 TheGrill 2024: Justine Bateman, Megan Rapinoe, Kevin Merida, Rachel Morrison and more converge at TheWrap's annual entertainment and tech conference

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Movers and shakers across the industry converged at TheWrap’s annual TheGrill conference on Tuesday, where everyone from soccer legend Megan Rapinoe to Oscar-nominated filmmaker Rachel Morrison to Hollywood heavyweights Jeff Sagansky and Mary Parent discussed the impacts of AI, shifting industry and viewership trends and more across every facet of entertainment.

For more than a decade, TheWrap’s Grill event series has led the conversation on the convergence of entertainment, media and technology, bringing together newsmakers to debate the challenges of and opportunities for making content in the digital age. TheGrill delivers a unique series of curated discussions, industry panels and networking activations that explore the ever-changing media landscape.

See who turned out to share knowledge, make connections and build their careers at TheWrap’s 2024 Grill conference, held at the DGA Theater Complex in Hollywood, in the gallery below.

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How Companies Like CAA, Deep Voodoo Are Protecting Artists From AI Abuse — With a Vault https://www.thewrap.com/hollywood-ai-allergy-artificial-intelligence-the-grill/ Wed, 09 Oct 2024 23:35:26 +0000 https://www.thewrap.com/?p=7630441 TheGrill 2024: “AI is a tool, but it's never going to be the tool,” Veritone's Sean King says

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As Hollywood grapples with the rise of artificial intelligence, powerhouse talent agency CAA is leveling up to protect its artists from AI abuse. And it all comes down to a vault.

Speaking at TheWrap’s Grill conference on Tuesday, CAA head of Strategic Development Alexandra Shannon broke down how she spearheaded the creation of the CAAvault, which was set up in September 2023 and uses technology from AI company Veritone to capture and store digital likenesses and voices.

“[The Vault] focused on enabling our artists, our talent, to capture their digital likeness and their voice and be able to own that so our clients, who have gone through the vault, own their authorized, authenticated version of themselves,” Shannon explained. “They’re in control of it. We’ve created permissions around who can use it and how.”

Shannon was joined onstage by Matt Galsor, a partner at law firm Greenberg Glusker; Brian Robillard, the COO of AI company Deep Voodoo; and Sean King, the general manger of Media & Entertainment at Veritone, a publicly traded AI company based in Irvine.

Veritone sponsored the panel, titled “Protecting Creative Rights + Opportunities in the Age of AI,” which was moderated by TheWrap’s Business Editor Alexei Barrionuevo. Together, they discussed how to best leverage AI to help creators, rather than put them out of a job.

CAA’s Alexandra Shannon at TheGrill 2024 (Credit: Randy Shropshire for TheWrap)

“There’s a hesitation and resilient kind of allergy to the technology itself, because it has that potential [to reshape the industry],” Galsor, who represents A-list directors James Cameron and David Fincher, told TheGrill crowd in Los Angeles.

Robillard, whose AI startup was co-founded by “South Park“ creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker, said the tech isn’t something the entertainment industry should fear. Instead, it’s “a tool for humans” to make content better, faster and cheaper.

“We have one customer who’s making a couple movies right now,” Robillard said. “And normally, that actor would have to sit in a prosthetics chair for six hours a day, on a three-month production shoot and the whole crew would have to be sitting there. Now, with our technology, they just walk onto set as they are with just the wardrobe, and in real-time it puts the hair and prosthetics over them. They see it in the live feed. It goes into the dailies and then, ultimately, into the production.”

Echoing those comments, King insisted the creative opinions of Hollywood’s actors, directors and producers are paramount.

“Fundamentally, we are an AI company, which is a controversial topic, especially in the industries that my team represents,” he said. “But let me be clear: from our perspective, AI is a tool, but it’s never going to be the tool.”

King added, “What we really do is focus on trying to find and make the most out of the audio and video that you create.”

Meanwhile, Shannon said that CAA has been busy contemplating the industry-shifting potential of AI — forcing the agency to weigh the pros and cons for its clients.

“We had to figure out, what does it mean for our clients? How do we, on the one hand, protect them from any sort of misuse when the laws [to safeguard artists] aren’t there anytime soon,” she said. “But on the other hand, there’s undeniable opportunity with these tools and technologies.”

Shannon stressed the need to pursue “ethical AI” to protect creatives.

“Having a set of partners that are aligned in the ethics behind it, behind the principles of consent, credit and compensation, is critical,” she said.

However, not everyone is as bullish that AI is helping the entertainment industry.

Earlier in the day, during another AI panel, focused on its growing influence in Hollywood, actor and filmmaker Justine Bateman warned that AI “will burn down the business.”

How do we protect [our clients] from any sort of misuse when the laws aren’t there anytime soon?
— Alexandra Shannon, CAA Head of Strategic Development

“If you start taking out chunks of duties, maybe the whole marketing department, maybe a camera, maybe all the actors or half the actors, or the crew doesn’t get their days to qualify for insurance because you’re only using them for three weeks instead of 12,” Bateman said, “whatever it is, the structure will collapse.”

In support of her skeptical AI stance, Bateman founded Credo23, the 2025 film festival that won’t allow movies that use AI to be submitted.

About TheGrill: For 15 years, TheGrill event series has led the conversation on the convergence of entertainment, media and technology, bringing together newsmakers to debate the challenges of and opportunities for making content in the digital age. TheGrill delivers a unique series of curated discussions, industry panels and networking activations that explore the ever-changing media landscape.

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TheGrill 2024 Portrait Gallery: Megan Rapinoe, Jeff Sagansky, Mary Parent and More Industry Leaders https://www.thewrap.com/the-grill-2024-speaker-portraits/ Wed, 09 Oct 2024 21:19:15 +0000 https://www.thewrap.com/?p=7629387 TheGrill 2024: Hollywood, tech and media movers and shakers converge for the annual conference

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TheGrill 2024 kicked off Tuesday with a number of entertainment heavyweights on hand to discuss the biggest questions facing Hollywood, tech and media today, from AI, to diminishing production budgets, to billionaires in the newsroom and more.

For more than a decade, TheWrap’s Grill event series has led the conversation on the convergence of entertainment, media and technology, bringing together newsmakers to debate the challenges of and opportunities for making content in the digital age. TheGrill delivers a unique series of curated discussions, industry panels and networking activations that explore the ever-changing media landscape.

Peruse our gallery below of portraits for speakers from the event, hosted this year at the DGA Theater Complex in Hollywood, including sports legend Megan Rapinoe, journalism and media leaders Oliver Darcy and Kevin Merida, and veteran entertainment investor Jeff Sagansky.

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‘Dune’ Producer Mary Parent Says the Industry Has Gotten Worse for Female Producers: ‘It’s Harder to Get In’ | Video https://www.thewrap.com/lucy-fisher-mary-parent-sue-naegel-panel-female-producers/ Wed, 09 Oct 2024 21:02:30 +0000 https://www.thewrap.com/?p=7630367 TheGrill 2024: Producers Lucy Fisher and Sue Naegle also discuss how jobs moving out of California are leading to fewer women in the field

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“Dune: Part Two” producer Mary Parent said that despite her own success working on big-budget productions, it’s “harder to get in” now than it was when she started her career decades ago.

“It’s harder to get in. The paths that used to exist don’t. I think that’s really impacted everything,” Parent said at TheWrap’s annual Grill conference on Tuesday, observing that the field has been dominated historically by men, especially on “big films.”

“Those were the films I wanted to make,” Parent said.

The lack of progress for female producers in the business was raised by former New York Times journalist Laura Holson who moderated the panel which included Lucy Fisher, the producer of “Gladiator II” opens next month, and veteran executive and producer Sue Naegle, who produced this awards season contender “Nightbitch.” Holson cited data reflecting that between 1998 and 2023, the number of female producers had only increased by 2%.

“I can’t answer it. I don’t understand why those numbers don’t go up,” said Fisher, expressing frustration. “There’s an unrecognized bias and every woman in every field has to say, ‘I have to do it better than everybody else to get my spot.'”

Fisher recalled that she was the president of the Producers Guild for four years, and that at the time it was “almost 50/50.”

Parent, who is also the chairwoman of worldwide production for Legendary said that there was only one time in her career where the producer, the line producer and the unit production manager were all women. It was in 2012 on Gareth Edwards’ “Godzilla” for Legendary.

On “Nightbitch,” producer Naegle noted that women produced the movie including Amy Adams, the movie’s star – and they also had a female writer/director in Marielle Heller (who also made “Can You Ever Forgive Me?” and “A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood”). Naegle said that mentorship is the key. “Mentorship is everything. It is the #1 thing that we can do to move those numbers is mentor young women,” Naegle stressed.

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Mary Parent at TheGrill 2024 (Credit: Randy Shropshire for TheWrap)

Another hurdle to women producing in the industry is the fact that so many productions are decamping for foreign locations, which is incredibly challenging for female producers who are also mothers, Fisher observed.

Fisher remembered a time when two or three movies would be made on the lot – she’d have her kids come to the studio and they’d walk around and peek in on the productions. “That doesn’t happen anymore,” Fisher said. “One thing about choosing life as a producer as a woman, it’s a big problem. They should have more jobs in California.”

This last comment got a rise out of Parent who shot back: “Good luck with that.”

The panel Powerhouse Producers was sponsored by Wrapbook Payroll.

About TheGrill: For 15 years, TheGrill event series has led the conversation on the convergence of entertainment, media and technology, bringing together newsmakers to debate the challenges of and opportunities for making content in the digital age. TheGrill delivers a unique series of curated discussions, industry panels and networking activations that explore the ever-changing media landscape.

TheGrill is powered by the essential source for entertainment insiders, WrapPRO, TheWrap’s premium content subscription platform. This members-only service and community provides deep analysis and access — that can’t be found anywhere else — on the business of entertainment, streaming and media. Click here for more information on WrapPRO.

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Justine Bateman Warns AI Will ‘Burn Down the Business’: ‘The Structure Will Collapse’ | Video https://www.thewrap.com/justine-bateman-ai-ethics-edouard-harris-panel-interview/ Wed, 09 Oct 2024 18:01:35 +0000 https://www.thewrap.com/?p=7629434 TheGrill 2024: “These investment decisions are completely neglecting a gargantuan wildcard — human beings,” Bateman says

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Filmmaker and AI regulation activist Justine Bateman sounded the alarm on the use of artificial intelligence in Hollywood on Tuesday, warning that the technology is going to “burn down the business.”

Going toe-to-toe with Gladstone AI CTO Edouard Harris at TheWrap’s annual Grill conference held this year at the DGA Theater Complex, the “Violet” director and CREDO 23 film festival founder said that using AI in film and TV will result in a loss of jobs — sometimes whole departments — and that when it comes to industry professionals’ livelihoods, “the structure will collapse.”

“All these conversations and all these investment decisions are completely neglecting a gargantuan wildcard – human beings and their decisions,” Bateman said. “For the business in particular? Is it going to burn down the business?”

She continued, “If you start taking out chunks of duties, maybe the whole marketing department, maybe a camera, maybe all the actors or half the actors, or the crew doesn’t get their days to qualify for insurance because you’re only using them for three weeks instead of 12. Whatever it is, the structure will collapse.”

For Harris’ part, leaning more and more on AI comes down to risk capital and risk mitigation. Founded in 2022, Gladstone is working to educate and advise the U.S. government on AI opportunities and risks.

“One of our concerns absolutely is what are the risks that come when you have an AI system that can broadly have superhuman capabilities,” he added. “Will we get there? Can’t be sure, but certainly when it comes to risk mitigation we need to consider that possibility seriously.”

TheWrap business reporter Sean Burch asked if Hollywood can expect a two-pronged system going forward — one where studios like Sony and filmmakers like James Cameron are leaning into AI while others are fighting against it. Bateman said that’s happening in other industries and to expect it to happen in Hollywood as well.

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Justine Bateman at TheGrill 2024 (Credit: Randy Shropshire for TheWrap)

“It’s like we’re all on a railroad track and now the railroad track is split in two,” she said.

On one path, the people who are embracing AI and want to “crush the structure” are doing so “not to make films better, but to right profit margins,” she said. Down the other path are those who want to “continue pushing the art of filmmaking.” Despite the divergence, she believes the two paths will reconvene into something new.

“The art of filmmaking is going to continue and I think we’ll see after this inferno a new genre in the arts,” Bateman said. “We haven’t seen a new genre in the arts sine the ’90s of any real significance. There’s been some exceptional work of the last 15 years, but for the most part, the focus has just been on generating volume content which is not filmmaking.”

About TheGrill: For 15 years, TheGrill event series has led the conversation on the convergence of entertainment, media and technology, bringing together newsmakers to debate the challenges of and opportunities for making content in the digital age. TheGrill delivers a unique series of curated discussions, industry panels and networking activations that explore the ever-changing media landscape.

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Ex-LA Times Editor Kevin Merida Says He Didn’t Want to Leave, Points to ‘Disagreements’ With Owner https://www.thewrap.com/la-times-kevin-merida-disagreements-owner/ Wed, 09 Oct 2024 16:18:19 +0000 https://www.thewrap.com/?p=7630238 TheGrill 2024: "It can't fail," Merida says about the Times, but noted it was unusual for owner Patrick Soon-Shiong to influence editorial decisions

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In his first interview since abruptly leaving the Los Angeles Times in January, former executive editor Kevin Merida said “disagreements” with owner Patrick Soon-Shiong led to his exit from the paper.

Merida’s comment came during a one-on-one interview with Oliver Darcy of Status News at TheWrap’s annual Grill conference in Los Angeles on Tuesday.

Two major job cuts — one in June 2023 that eliminated 74 newsroom positions, and another 115 layoffs in January 2024 — were a driving factor in Merida’s decision, he said. Merida resigned two weeks before the January 2024 layoffs were announced.

“I came there to try to transform the place. It’s very hard. I thought the last round of layoffs — that was not something I thought was going to be beneficial to what we were trying to do to grow. … And there were some disagreements that the owner and I had,” Merida said.

One of those disagreements, TheWrap reported earlier this year, was Soon-Shiong’s interfering in editorial decisions — something that damaged his relationship with his top editor.

On Tuesday, Darcy asked if Soon-Shiong’s newsroom meddling influenced Merida’s decision to leave. Merida didn’t deny or confirm it, but said that wasn’t the norm at his previous roles. (He previously was an editor at The Washington Post and was editor-in-chief of ESPN’s The Undefeated.)

“Anyone who owns a newspaper, who owns a news organization, can do anything they want,” Merida replied. “It’s theirs, they own it. It’s not my experience, in the places I’ve worked, that you have that happen with owners.”

Merida added there were “a lot of factors” that led to his exit, including the Times’ “structure.”

“I’m not normally the kind of person who will leave a place, I’m trying to stay someplace. I’m trying to help the LA Times because I know how important it is to the people of Los Angeles, California, and really, to the nation. It can’t fail,” Merida said. “I did everything I could to stay there. I just thought ultimately, it was best for me to leave.”

Elsewhere during the panel, titled “The Next Chapter of Journalism in Los Angeles,” Darcy asked Merida about CBS’ recent interview with Ta-Nehisi Coates which the news organization said didn’t meet their standards as morning show anchor Tony Dokoupil pressed the author on his opinions on the Israel-Gaza war.

 “I was surprised to see the interview. It was uncommon. It was not like I’ve seen a book author receive,” he said. “The opening question about how [the book] could have been in the backpack of ‘extremists’ — I’ve never heard that as an opening question of an author. … It was a very surprising approach to an interview, to me.”

Kevin Merida at TheGrill (Photo by Brandon Hicks)

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